'good' flip side pedals two bolt - do these exist?

[zlin]

I have a pair of the silver Shimano m324 pedals but I'm looking for something a bit more 'technical' or simply not as dorky for my commuter since it's warm now and I will sometimes want to wear shoes or sandals on rides. Others I've tried have been half performance each side.

so....to the team....what functions and grips well on the flats for sneakers, clips in two bolt style, and looks different than the m324.

[mtbmoose]

Not sure what you mean by “half performance each side”, but these trekking pedals from Shimano look nicer than the m324s and likely grip better for flat shoes.

https://ride.shimano.com/collections...dbd79c8b&_ss=c

Basically, a platform pedal on one side with spikes and an SPD mechanism on the other. Similar in function to the m324, but nicer looking and perhaps more functional.

Not sure you’re going to find a dual sided clipless pedal that also works well with grippy, non-clipless shoes.

[zlin]

Thanks for the link! These might work out as I’m trying to have it all. The pins and grip on the non clip side is the main thing I’m after.

Thank you!

[KrispyK]

The Shimano PD-T8000 linked above is my favorite. Spin great. Grip well. Look good. They are definitely weighted towards the spd side. Almost never miss a clip in coming off a stop light but do land on the wrong side sometimes with regular shoes.

[T2*GRE]

Originally Posted by zlin

I have a pair of the silver Shimano m324 pedals but I'm looking for something a bit more 'technical' or simply not as dorky for my commuter since it's warm now and I will sometimes want to wear shoes or sandals on rides. Others I've tried have been half performance each side.

so....to the team....what functions and grips well on the flats for sneakers, clips in two bolt style, and looks different than the m324.

I’ve been using these for a few years. Have them on half my bikes. Ride tech mtn bike trails clipped in. Use the flat side to ride the bike from the hospital back to my car.

[Veloo]

I had been using the Shimano PD-A530 pedals for years.
The flat side does get slippery, especially in wet conditions.
Never tried the updated EH500 which looks like the same pedals but with grub screws/ pins.

Got a used set of Saint MX80 pedals and they have been great. The pins keep the shoe so well in place, it almost feels like riding with cleats.
I like not having to flip the pedal to the flat side.

I rarely rode with cleated shoes on the commuter. I have casual cleated sneakers but I still prefer just regular street shoes.

Not exactly what you're asking but maybe an option to consider - flat pedals with pins.
Looks like there are also nice composite ones as well like the Race Face Chester.

[Alistair]

Originally Posted by zlin

Thanks for the link! These might work out as I’m trying to have it all. The pins and grip on the non clip side is the main thing I’m after.

Thank you!

Shimano has a few options, with differing amounts of pins. My wife has the M324 (or something very similar) on her commuter, as she has less tolerance for shinburger.

https://ride.shimano.com/collections...ur-bikepacking

[Tall]

My fave is the Shimano PD-EH500. I have them on my fixie commuter/all-purpose bike and mostly use them clipped in. On our tandem we have much older M324s (I think), and the EH500 is better. More grip; easier to get to the side you want.

[Wunder]

Originally Posted by KrispyK

The Shimano PD-T8000 linked above is my favorite. Spin great. Grip well. Look good. They are definitely weighted towards the spd side. Almost never miss a clip in coming off a stop light but do land on the wrong side sometimes with regular shoes.

I have the older version of these on my commuter. I like that they also include built in reflectors which while a bit dorky do help a lot with nighttime visibility due to motion. The older version is NOT pinned so grip with flats in the wet isn't great. I imagine the newer version is better in that regard but could tear up shoes.

[benb]

I have the A530 and they do kind of suck. They are more annoying than single sided clipless pedals just cause they seem to be weighted wrong for everything and you never get them hanging in the right orientation when you start out.

I currently just run non-shimano flat pedals with big aggressive pins. I think mine might be crank brothers.

I was basically looking for the biggest platform I could cause my fit are big, and the way normal shoes are I really need some pedal spindle extenders. The flats I have don't even have anywhere near as much spindle as most clipless pedals and that seems common. I think this is because my commuter has a road bike level of Q factor though and all these flats are designed assuming a MTB.

[christian]

I use the PD-EH500 pedals on my commuter. Use them 90% with SPDs but they're great for riding to the coffee shop in Vans too. I really think they're amazing, and a huge advance over the 324s which my wife had on an old bike.

For a mountain bike, I would probably get the PD-T8000s (or just flats with Five Ten shoes), but for a mostly road-oriented commuter/tourer, the PD-EH500 are the bee's knees.

[reuben]

I've used PD-EH500 in the past with no issues. If you're scared of scarring yourself with the pins just remove them.

[Spdntrxi]

I have the LOOK geotreking version on the ebike. I can put LED where the usual reflectors go. Great for commuting.

[Jaybee]

I had high hopes for dual sided pedals too, and tried to make Crank Bros. Double Shot work for an around town bike that sometimes sees some more spirited riding where i would want to clip in. What i ultimately found was that I wasn't happy with the flat pedal performance and the pedal was always weighted wrong for the clip side. Still have that bike, but I found it was better to take the 2 minutes to switch to real flats or real 2-bolt clips before the ride. There's some Ron Swanson wisdom here: "Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing. "

[EB]

Agreed - modern pinned flat pedals or real clip-in pedals just perform so much better at their job than these hybrid models.

For a commuter where this is even a question, I'd go with pinned flats.

For optimal performance with pinned flat pedals, you also need shoes that interface well with the pins. Skate-type flats are ideal, if you don't want to buy a pair of the eleventy billion kinds of Five 10 type mountain bike shoes out there now.